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Peace through Firepower by t-subgenius Peace through Firepower by t-subgenius
"If you want peace, prepare for war."


Set this up using 55 of my Mosin Nagant's 7.62x54 rounds on my kitchen floor.

Political commentary, against the idiocy of pacifism? Likely. Protest for some cause? Unlikely. An odd idea at 4:00 in the morning that seemed amusing? You got it.
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:iconzeitgeist-1984:
Zeitgeist-1984 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Student
"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."
George Carlin
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
George Carlin is completely correct and in a rational world we would be able to talk out our problems and come to basic agreements based on mutual respect and concern for others.
Sadly, petty dictators, warlords, tyrants, and other glorified bullies are not know for their rationality or willingness to work things out.  Violence should be the option of last resort and only after all practical avenues for peaceful resolution have been exhausted, and should never be taken lightly.
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Zeitgeist-1984 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014  Student
And how do you feel that "last resort" option you've referred to has been working out for "humanity" thus far? Are we really evolving when all history has taught us is that man has learned nothing from history?

Dictators, warlords, tyrants et al can't make war without people fighting for them on their behalf, so to place the responsibility of war on the aforementioned thugs of society is a cop-out. It's an oversimplified argument when you take into account everything that is needed to make war happen - and by this I mean beyond that of just tyrants - I'm referring specifically to the business of war (Smedley Butler and his essay, War is a Racket), and the propaganda involved to rally the masses behind these campaigns (Joseph Goebbles).
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
Given that there are armed neutral nations that have survived World wars, Cold War, and still standing despite a 'War on Terror', I would say quite well.  Still waiting on pacifist nations.
Evolution only requires survival and reproduction, humanity is doing ok at the moment.  Given that we have gone from continent spanning meat grinders claiming hundreds of thousands, to a stalemate with city-killer weapons that could have casualties in the megadeaths, to small scale conflicts within a hundred years, I would say we are doing pretty well.
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Zeitgeist-1984 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Student

Once upon a time, our heroic boys in uniform did their murder with psychopaths like George Custer raiding Indian villages at dawn on horseback at the head of scared shitless cavalrymen and cutting down women and children in the good old up close and personal way with sabers and carbines. Just a few years back, we had advanced to slaughtering equally defenseless Arabs at slightly safer range with helicopter gunships doing the killing. Now at last, our current generation of war heroes can do their dirt sitting comfortably at computer consoles with cans of Diet Pepsi at hand to ease their hard and heroic work. I understand that these John Wayne types don't even get to see the terrified faces of the human beings being murdered. So much easier. So much less stress. So much less danger of nasty side effects like PTSD.

Be proud to be an American if you are one... An exceptional nation beloved of a Christian God who is, of course, smiling at the righteousness of His servants.

I do applaud you for using the "War on Terror" in quotes, and may the stalemate you speak of continue as the bombs fall at the hands of a president that won the Nobel Peace Prize; a prize which has essentially become a requirement for being vetted by the corporate oligarchy.

For the record, regardless of the intention of your work, it lends itself to being interpreted a number of different ways by the viewer. I see this piece more from a dualistic standpoint and so from my perspective, I find it to be an insightful and progressive work. So while we might differ on the nature of the content being expressed, the fact that it provokes meaningful discussion makes it the powerful piece that it is.

Peace.
 

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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014
And the latest generation of war heroes are suffering from PTSD as well despite being safely behind a computer.  Apparently, knowing that you are blowing people up and seeing it in high definition can cause trauma as well.  Who knew?

No, its not "America," the United States is just one country in the larger Americas and does not speak for everyone (though it thinks it does.)  It also is not supposed to be a christian nation… a whole mess of crazy death cult followers and corporate interests have hijacked the country and sent it into a tailspin.
I thought the whole peace prize to obama was a joke when I first heard it.  Never will understand how the least batshit candidate wins you a medal, but in the US have to have a prize for everyone to reinforce the special snowflake mentality so no one's feelings get hurt.

Also, thank you.  In the 8 years my picture has been up, this is the first meaningful conversation that I have had over it.  You have no idea how much I appreciate it, and I am glad that I did not delete it the dozen or so times I considered it.  Debate gives you a chance to understand the viewpoint of others and revisit your own; always been of the opinion that if there is to be any hope for an end to violence there needs to be a hell of a lot more talking going on.
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Zeitgeist-1984 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Student
It's been a while. Thought you might enjoy the article:
www.commondreams.org/view/2014…

The comment from one poster, Robert, was rather enlightening and I thought I'd pass it on:

We're all somebody's children. We're all victims of this never-ending nightmare, including the perpetrators themselves. It is within each of us to stop our participation in the violence. Hatred, no matter how seemingly righteous, is one of the first steps on the road to war. No one can walk both the road of peace and the road of war simultaneously: each of us has to choose which we will follow. Peace is the road less travelled but of the two it is the richer and, in these dark times, the harder. Choose wisely.
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ArtAgainstSociety Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist

Hello! I would like to notify you that I've featured you on my surreal and abstract art blog over on Tumblr. Your work really fits the theme, and you can see it on artagainstsociety.tumblr.com. Of course, I have given you credit and linked to your page. If for any reason you don't want it published any longer, just send me a message and I'll delete it pronto. Thanks, and congratulations! Your art is beautiful. Please note: If you don't see your art right away on my blog, it is probably still in the queue and has yet to be posted.

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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
Thank you, I appreciate it!
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kappanaruto999 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011
So true
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samsta87 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2011
nice! :D
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Conservatoons Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2010
love this.
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omega12008 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nice ^^

mosin nagant is such a well made rifle. too bad they made the 50 cal rifle that outplays it. but you can never kill the classics. ^^
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2010
The .50cal may have superior range and penetration capabilities, but I find the price of the gun itself and the ammunition to be too steep for my taste. Its also very... impractical for any civilian purposes. Mosin Nagant makes for an excellent hunting rifle. The .50cal, not too many wild light armored fighting vehicles running around to harvest.
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omega12008 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
again. can never kill the classics ^^
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2010
Nope, they are built WAY too well.
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z532 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2009
Ah the Mosin Nagant. Such a beautiful rifle.
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DocCarlson Featured By Owner May 2, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really, really like this for some reason.
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner May 4, 2009
Nice to hear. Thank you.
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warmonger13 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2009
i agree with your point.
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3lfen Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2008
you've been featured! check it out here: [link]
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aaiezz Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008
that is effing powerful man!! nicely done!
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Jouhisorsa Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2007
You made a good point. Fav. :)
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2007
Thanks!
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robertgilbert86 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2007
This seems really unappreciated, it's very good.
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2007
Sorry about taking so long to reply.

Thank you very much for the comment & +fav.
As far as appreciation, underappreciation doesnt bother me. I dont consider myself to be a real artist, Im a biologist. I only post things that... amuse me. If I recieve comments, +favs, etc. its just like adding garnish to a nice meal: its nice but not really a necessary thing.
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robertgilbert86 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2007
I know what you mean, I'm a Civil Engineering student, I've been thinking that is my career for years now...but I'd love to earn money from photography on the side too!
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dynasourX Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2007  Professional Photographer
Interesting concept.
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2007
Thanks, I can get kinda twisted at times. Acually thinking about doing another one (making it a bit more visually appealing) in the near future.
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dynasourX Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2007  Professional Photographer
I don't think it's twisted.
More like ironic:)
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RandomRobot Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2007
kewl!!!
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The-Darkwolf Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
Si vis pacem, para bellum...

Cool pic! :thumbsup:
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DocCarlson Featured By Owner May 2, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
took the words right out of my mouth...
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2006
Wanted to put the Latin phrase down, but couldnt remember the first part for the life of me.

Glad you like it :)
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CentauriTiger Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
love it!!! XD FAVE!!!
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PrismaticJoi Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
That is friggin sweet :)
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
Every so often, I get twisted ideas like this. I just HAD to do this.
Wish I had more ammunition handy to make it look more interesting.
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PrismaticJoi Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
lol mmmm Ammo ><
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
Thanks for the +fave BTW!
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NekoDanie Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
Very Nice.
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t-subgenius Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006
<bows> Thank you.
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